Here is the discussion topic for Law & Order “Turn The Page” which aired on Thursday, February 1, 2024. Please feel free to add any feedback you have about this episode in the comments!
Great episode! Easily the best of season 23 and perhaps the best of the reboot so far. I’ll get my one gripe out of the way at the start: how was this not an SVU case? But this is what the reboot has been missing in my opinion. No stupid twists, no celebrity victim or criminal. No silly made up corporations or AI or anything like that. Nope. Just classic, throwback Mothership goodness. A regular victim with a vile, narcissist, murderous, unlikeable criminal who we all wanted to see the cops and DA nail. Level headed judges that weren’t leaning too far to the defense’s side. Rulings that did what they needed to give a fair trial. Of course it being L&O they got a little preachy about how hard police and DA’s actually go after cases involving different victims of different races. Yet it wasn’t too heavy handed and understandable and relatable. Could have done without the friction between Shaw and Riley. Appreciated their concern towards the heartbroken mother. Again a little preachy about crime and no one caring but also again not too overbearing and it was understandable and relatable as many do feel that way. Another week another running scene but oh well. Also appreciated the character work and insight into the back story of Dixon and Riley. Loved Dixon showing some personality and putting the defense lawyer in her place reminding her of her rank. McCoy even felt like McCoy! Regarding Price. I just don’t know. 3 seasons and I just don’t like or care for him. He can’t possibly have any friends!
@RobertNacci - I agree. I felt the classic"mothership" vibe very strong as well.
Price is the weak link. There is something about Hugh Dancy; I feel like he's always struggling to get his words out. Maybe it's from trying to disguise his native British accent? Or is it just the character written badly?
Definitely had the vibe of the earlier seasons but there are still some problems. The two biggest ones being the defense calling Riley as a witness and everyone acting shocked and then everyone not knowing Riley's prior problem. Okay, drinking on the job... eh. But PUNCHING your supervisor? A Police Captain? I feel like that would make the rounds in the whole department.
The other thing I disliked was the ending of Riley showing Price the pictures and I was like, "Why was this not investigated sooner? Especially since they were TRYING to tie all the cases together."
Price definitely the weak leak and I feel that's a problem of the writing versus him struggling to hide his accent (he did fine as Will Graham).
Great episode. I liked everything about it. I'll even give Hugh Dancy a pass on this one. It felt like old times. And Reid Scott is a nice fit with the show and I like the chemistry with him and Mehcad. It makes me feel so good about the show. Well, until I heard Sam was leaving (weeping).
@brit - I'll have to look at some of the prior intros to compare but all I know for sure is the law enforcement section goes first and the legal second. I wonder if they just slip the new person into the place for the person they replaced? Or just put the newest detective first, then the next detective, and then the Lieutenant next? For how many years I've watched this show you'd think I'd know this but I will try and take a look and see if there is a pattern.
@brit & @Chris: How the actors are introduced has always been Senior Detective Junior Detective Supervising Officer EADA Second Chair DA
It being in some kind of alphabetical order has been a coincidence. Examples
Paul Sorvino was listed ahead of Chris Noth Jerry Orbach was listed ahead of Chris Both, Benjamin Bratt, and Jesse L. Martin Jesse L. Martin was listed ahead of Milena Govich
Michael Moriarty was listed ahead of Jill Hennessy Sam Waterston (cries) was listed ahead of Jill Hennessy, Cary Lowell, Angie Harmin, Elisabeth Rohm, Annie Parisse, and Alana de la Garza. Line Roache was listed ahead of Alana de la Garza.
Decent episode. I thought Riley's background was interesting and I liked how it successfully connected to the case.
I watched this episode after finding out about the news of Sam Waterston's departure. It is extremely disappointing, and I was literally about to cry as he appeared in this episode. Like I said in another post, Tony Goldwyn as giant shoes to fill!!!
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Great episode! Easily the best of season 23 and perhaps the best of the reboot so far. I’ll get my one gripe out of the way at the start: how was this not an SVU case? But this is what the reboot has been missing in my opinion. No stupid twists, no celebrity victim or criminal. No silly made up corporations or AI or anything like that. Nope. Just classic, throwback Mothership goodness. A regular victim with a vile, narcissist, murderous, unlikeable criminal who we all wanted to see the cops and DA nail. Level headed judges that weren’t leaning too far to the defense’s side. Rulings that did what they needed to give a fair trial. Of course it being L&O they got a little preachy about how hard police and DA’s actually go after cases involving different victims of different races. Yet it wasn’t too heavy handed and understandable and relatable. Could have done without the friction between Shaw and Riley. Appreciated their concern towards the heartbroken mother. Again a little preachy about crime and no one caring but also again not too overbearing and it was understandable and relatable as many do feel that way. Another week another running scene but oh well. Also appreciated the character work and insight into the back story of Dixon and Riley. Loved Dixon showing some personality and putting the defense lawyer in her place reminding her of her rank. McCoy even felt like McCoy! Regarding Price. I just don’t know. 3 seasons and I just don’t like or care for him. He can’t possibly have any friends!
@RobertNacci - I agree. I felt the classic"mothership" vibe very strong as well.
Price is the weak link. There is something about Hugh Dancy; I feel like he's always struggling to get his words out. Maybe it's from trying to disguise his native British accent? Or is it just the character written badly?
Definitely had the vibe of the earlier seasons but there are still some problems. The two biggest ones being the defense calling Riley as a witness and everyone acting shocked and then everyone not knowing Riley's prior problem. Okay, drinking on the job... eh. But PUNCHING your supervisor? A Police Captain? I feel like that would make the rounds in the whole department.
The other thing I disliked was the ending of Riley showing Price the pictures and I was like, "Why was this not investigated sooner? Especially since they were TRYING to tie all the cases together."
Price definitely the weak leak and I feel that's a problem of the writing versus him struggling to hide his accent (he did fine as Will Graham).
I have a question when they do the intro of the actors on the show why is the new guy the first one introduced its not alphabetical?
Great episode. I liked everything about it. I'll even give Hugh Dancy a pass on this one. It felt like old times. And Reid Scott is a nice fit with the show and I like the chemistry with him and Mehcad. It makes me feel so good about the show. Well, until I heard Sam was leaving (weeping).
@brit - I'll have to look at some of the prior intros to compare but all I know for sure is the law enforcement section goes first and the legal second. I wonder if they just slip the new person into the place for the person they replaced? Or just put the newest detective first, then the next detective, and then the Lieutenant next? For how many years I've watched this show you'd think I'd know this but I will try and take a look and see if there is a pattern.
@brit & @Chris: How the actors are introduced has always been
Senior Detective
Junior Detective
Supervising Officer
EADA
Second Chair
DA
It being in some kind of alphabetical order has been a coincidence. Examples
Paul Sorvino was listed ahead of Chris Noth
Jerry Orbach was listed ahead of Chris Both, Benjamin Bratt, and Jesse L. Martin
Jesse L. Martin was listed ahead of Milena Govich
Michael Moriarty was listed ahead of Jill Hennessy
Sam Waterston (cries) was listed ahead of Jill Hennessy, Cary Lowell, Angie Harmin, Elisabeth Rohm, Annie Parisse, and Alana de la Garza.
Line Roache was listed ahead of Alana de la Garza.
Decent episode. I thought Riley's background was interesting and I liked how it successfully connected to the case.
I watched this episode after finding out about the news of Sam Waterston's departure. It is extremely disappointing, and I was literally about to cry as he appeared in this episode. Like I said in another post, Tony Goldwyn as giant shoes to fill!!!
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