I was fine w this announcement till I saw all the excitement that the show might 'finally' return to its 1.0 version. There are so many of those eps that I skip because I find it hard to manage elements like the victim-blaming, slut shaming, the stereotyping. Liv and Elliot were often as aggressive w the survivors as they were w their perps. I've spent a lot of time in recent months re-watching old seasons and I don't think it's until season 10 that you really hv the detectives, but especially Olivia, engaging survivors in a more empathetic and respectful way.
I know those who prefer the old era hate this particular change- but it is also around S10, imo, that the show starts to be more conscious and deliberate in it's messaging to survivors who watch the show. For me, it was a welcomed change.
I find a lot of the old eps to be very focused on shock value- example, closeups of corpses w their eyes dug out or someone painting w a victim's blood, long descriptions of a rape etc. Just even the frequency w which the rape victims died- It was almost always a rape/murder. I hv a lot of criticisms of the Warren Leight years but I do love that he brought to the fore the more everyday- seemingly 'unexciting' stories of acquaintance rape as opposed to unhinged serial killer. The old eps seemed very focused on being, basically, rape porn- and spending half the episode telling sordid details of a rape instead of conveying a larger pt. I think Leight and Chernuchin did better in this respect- thematic as opposed to merely being descriptive
On a re-watch it is insane just how many eps started w the corniest scenarios of a person discovering a dead body, w the endless trope of: point to something in the distance, have your company guess incorrectly what u are pointing to and then needing to point them to the corpse. I hv been so glad, even on some of the worst eps of the new era, to be past this tired and worn out cold open. No interest to return to that
No interest to return to this show being just some kinda rape porn. No interest in reverting to its treatment of Black characters and in particular Black victims. No interest in returning to cops interviewing victims w little to no 'bedside manner'
I can sometimes write long submissions to this forum just by being too heady and getting carried away w my 'analysis'. This long rant is genuinely processing. The more I read abt why ppl are happy for this particular showrunner the wearier I feel. Weary abt continuing w this show and weary w the world as a whole. I genuinely just feel drained. I hv seen the comments that the seasons this person was on were better cuz they weren't "woke" and ppl are happy that the show might be reverting to pre-'wokeness'. If, as i define it in this context, being "woke" is being aware of marginalized groups and how their stories are told then I am sad to know this might come to an end esp when there is still so much rm for improvement.
In the larger context of what society has been like these past few months and the unfiltered hatred towards marginalized groups I literally feel drained reading the reasons why ppl are excited abt this new showrunner. I think I'm due for a good long break from this show. Re-runs of the more inclusive seasons will do. The ones less focused on shock value and being sadistic in telling survivors stories.
I'm glad there is going to be a change. I'm so tired of the stories as they are now. There is rarely any controversy, there's no gray, it's all black and white. That is far from real life. I'm not saying the victim should be blamed, it's that solving the cases are far too easy and in real life I don't think these case are that simple. They need more legal arguing, they need more psychological investigations (someone like Dr. Huang). The early episodes were very layered and not like now which is one dimensional. As they say, there are two sides to every story and SVU over the last several years has been too one-sided. I don't know the directions they will take this but I say any change can be good!
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That's great news! I don't like Graziano's episodes (only a few were decent).
I was fine w this announcement till I saw all the excitement that the show might 'finally' return to its 1.0 version. There are so many of those eps that I skip because I find it hard to manage elements like the victim-blaming, slut shaming, the stereotyping. Liv and Elliot were often as aggressive w the survivors as they were w their perps. I've spent a lot of time in recent months re-watching old seasons and I don't think it's until season 10 that you really hv the detectives, but especially Olivia, engaging survivors in a more empathetic and respectful way.
I know those who prefer the old era hate this particular change- but it is also around S10, imo, that the show starts to be more conscious and deliberate in it's messaging to survivors who watch the show. For me, it was a welcomed change.
I find a lot of the old eps to be very focused on shock value- example, closeups of corpses w their eyes dug out or someone painting w a victim's blood, long descriptions of a rape etc. Just even the frequency w which the rape victims died- It was almost always a rape/murder. I hv a lot of criticisms of the Warren Leight years but I do love that he brought to the fore the more everyday- seemingly 'unexciting' stories of acquaintance rape as opposed to unhinged serial killer. The old eps seemed very focused on being, basically, rape porn- and spending half the episode telling sordid details of a rape instead of conveying a larger pt. I think Leight and Chernuchin did better in this respect- thematic as opposed to merely being descriptive
On a re-watch it is insane just how many eps started w the corniest scenarios of a person discovering a dead body, w the endless trope of: point to something in the distance, have your company guess incorrectly what u are pointing to and then needing to point them to the corpse. I hv been so glad, even on some of the worst eps of the new era, to be past this tired and worn out cold open. No interest to return to that
No interest to return to this show being just some kinda rape porn. No interest in reverting to its treatment of Black characters and in particular Black victims. No interest in returning to cops interviewing victims w little to no 'bedside manner'
I can sometimes write long submissions to this forum just by being too heady and getting carried away w my 'analysis'. This long rant is genuinely processing. The more I read abt why ppl are happy for this particular showrunner the wearier I feel. Weary abt continuing w this show and weary w the world as a whole. I genuinely just feel drained. I hv seen the comments that the seasons this person was on were better cuz they weren't "woke" and ppl are happy that the show might be reverting to pre-'wokeness'. If, as i define it in this context, being "woke" is being aware of marginalized groups and how their stories are told then I am sad to know this might come to an end esp when there is still so much rm for improvement.
In the larger context of what society has been like these past few months and the unfiltered hatred towards marginalized groups I literally feel drained reading the reasons why ppl are excited abt this new showrunner. I think I'm due for a good long break from this show. Re-runs of the more inclusive seasons will do. The ones less focused on shock value and being sadistic in telling survivors stories.
I'm glad there is going to be a change. I'm so tired of the stories as they are now. There is rarely any controversy, there's no gray, it's all black and white. That is far from real life. I'm not saying the victim should be blamed, it's that solving the cases are far too easy and in real life I don't think these case are that simple. They need more legal arguing, they need more psychological investigations (someone like Dr. Huang). The early episodes were very layered and not like now which is one dimensional. As they say, there are two sides to every story and SVU over the last several years has been too one-sided. I don't know the directions they will take this but I say any change can be good!
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