Thursday, March 30, 2023

Law & Order “Bias” Discussion Topic




Here is the discussion topic for Law & Order “Bias” which aired on Thursday, March 30, 2023. Please feel free to add any feedback you have about this episode in the comments!

My comments:   This was a solid episode.  Detectives Cosgrove and Shaw make a perfect team and I’m really enjoying watching these two work.  My only issue with the episode is Nolan Price.  It seems all too frequent that his witnesses change their testimony when on the stand, making Price look the fool.  He needs to find a way to prep his witnesses better – and prep himself better!   He should have recused himself from the case.  I can’t believe that Jack McCoy didn’t know Price was the one who found the body and that he knew the victim.  I can understand Jack not knowing Price dated the victim, but even so, Price’s involvement in finding the victim should have prevented him from prosecuting the case.


6 comments:

Robert Nacci said...

Easily the best episode of the season so far. And a little fire from Jack is always a good thing! But am I the only one who laughed when Price said he was the best? Far from it buddy. You’re at least 4th behind McCoy, Cutter, and Stone!

Valens Hawke said...

Unfortunately, I found this to be the worst of the season, which absolutely says something.

First, wouldn't Price finding the body and knowing the victim/having a casual relationship raise conflict of interest issues? Like, he could be called as a Witness. Jack, in no way, shape, or form, should have let Price be the lead prosecutor.

Suspending that disbelief...

A scene where Jack is talking to Price and Maroun about how to deal with a bias judge and getting him to be recused. All the writing decisions here seems like such an easy way to get thrown out on appeal. And, again, writers... do you have any knowledge of your own show? Even if Jack disagreed about getting the assigned judge recused (we're making Jack too much into Adam at this point), he'd know what to try because he's gone after judges. Hell, Nora Lewin went after a biased judge once. A missed opportunity.

"Yeah, and I'm the best!" Buddy, pal, amigo, comrade... I'd rank you 22 in a room full of 21 homicide prosecutors. You are a terrible lawyer. The writing on the law side is so incredibly weak I'm almost glad no one asked Linus Roache to come back if the writers would have done this to Cutter.

Jack not giving ANY shade to Price about finding the body until they were at jury deliberation. What? I mean, what? Writers, do you know who Jack McCoy is? Yes? THEN WRITE HIM LIKE YOU DO. Should have been like the first scene between those two.

The Brady Rule and potential violation. We've seen Jack skirt (break) the line enough times in the past on this very issue that we lost another oppotunity for Jack to play the role of mentor and what it's like to be reckless. If this is way to write Price out of the show at a later time... I mean, okay. I think Hugh Dancy would deserve better.

At least the chase was super short this time?

Cosgrove and Shaw, good as usual.

I am finding it so hard to continue with the current show. Like, I watch to see Jack show up and with my friend and we're both suffering here.

Next week looks promising. The actual story of NXIVM is so wild that they could literally play it almost exactly like how it really played out (they just need to add a murder obviously) and it'd be compelling.

So, the writer's will a twist that it was a family member of one of the cult members trying to destroy the cult or something.

I also, I very much sarcastically said the judge did it at the scene when Cosgrove & Shaw were asking the judge about a sentencing. I'm kind of disturbed my sarcasm was right.

Laurie F said...

They have the detective side working but the legal half of Law & Order this season is not good. Nolan Price saying he is the best was the biggest joke of them all. He has bungled almost every case he had this year with dumb mistakes, poorly prepped witnesses, and going to trial with no case or barely any evidence! And he thinks he's the best? I feel bad for Hugh Dancy as he deserves better writing than this. The viewers do to. I want Law & Order to get renewed for another season but my fingers are crossed that they will get some writers who actually have an idea how the law works or know how to write a legal drama.

There is NO WAY Price should have handled this case. Maroun should have gone over Price's head and spoke to Jack about this once the dating thing came out. In fact I can't believe that the Price being a witness didn't come up with Jack before the trial even started and Jack actually allowing it to continue. I would have rather seen conflict with Maroun throwing Price "under a bus" and getting him in trouble with Jack than seeing that mess of a trial.

Robert Nacci said...

@Valens Hawke great points about Jack. I kept saying how can they have a case like this with a possible bias judge and not have Jack get involved? Another week, another week of Jack bringing up the only important thing is to win. He isn’t Adam, Nora, or Arthur. They need to quit writing him like them. Same thoughts on when Price wanted to hold back the possible exculpatory evidence. A missed opportunity. We literally not that long ago had Jack give that speech in Ben Stone’s eulogy from SVU “The Undiscovered Country in 2018 where an inculpatory document was included with a discovery request received from opposing counsel and McCoy did not know what to do. He went to Ben Stone for advice and McCoy commented he can either ignore the document and McCoy says Stone cut him off, saying that…

“A man shouldn’t do what he can, he should do what he must without regard for consequence or repercussion, that’s what makes us moral, and god help us if we lose that.”

Missed mentoring opportunity indeed and are you telling me Jack has really changed that much in 5 years? I doubt it. I’m convinced the writers just don’t know the character, the history of the character, and almost 2 full seasons back, sad to say they don’t seem all that interested in learning the character or his history.

Regarding Jack not knowing Price found the body or his relationship with her, it’s just another instance of the writers making Jack look incompetent and not in control of his office or staff. Price seems to be able to do whatever he wants without fear of consequences. We never had that with Cutter. It always felt like the hammer was dimming any minute.

Finally, your note about Cutter not being brought back. I agree. If this is how they treat Jack and Price, I really don’t want to think about or see them ruining yet another beloved character.

Speaking of beloved characters would it kill them to update us on Lupo, Bernard, Van Buren, and Connie (although I guess she could still be in LA based on LOLA.)

red said...

rubirosa was seen after law order la as working ona Federal Task Force investigating sex trafficking in svu. And one thing in regards to bringing him in is svu had im promoted at bureau chief ada and had henry connick jr as david haden as eda

brit said...

Stupidly written in my view our problems with the episode belong to the writers and producers