Monday, April 20, 2009

Law & Order CI "Playing Dead” (Recap & Review)

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Season 8 of Law & Order Criminal Intent (USA) gave us the return of the show that we all know and love – where it’s about the crimes, the criminals, and the skills of the detectives. It also brought back the return of the more grounded Robert Goren (Vincent D’Onofrio), who seems more focused than he has in the last few seasons. It was also great to see a bit of a twinkle in his eyes when he made the crack to the wine merchant using a fake French accent, and when he needled the councilman’s mother Camille (Kathy Baker) on hitting a raw nerve. It was also great to see Eames (Kathryn Erbe) getting to push a few buttons as well.

The episode itself, however, was very complex, the first few minutes almost a little too confusing. As viewers were taken farther in to the disgusting life of Councilman Neil Hayes-Fitzgerald (Scott Cohen), the case seemed much clearer and much easier to follow. Scott Cohen did a fantastic job as the creepy, perverted, depraved (did I leave anything out?) councilman. Die-hard Law & Order fans will recognize Scott as being a Law & Order “repeat offender.” He guest starred in the rare, 3 episode storyline of Law & Order titled “Showtime,” “Turnaround,” and “D-Girl” and also starred in the short-lived Law & Order Trial By Jury as Detective Chris Ravell.
Despite the drama of the final interrogation, I chuckled at the line from Stacy that Sofie was Stacy’s sister and her daughter. Anyone who has ever seen the movie “Chinatown” with Faye Dunaway and Jack Nicholson will recall the scene where Fay’s character goes through the “she’s my sister, she’s my daughter, she’s my sister AND my daughter” lines amid slaps from Nicholson’s character. In this episode of Criminal Intent, it seemed like a very lame parody, making what should have been a tense scene almost seem funny. I think I would have found another way for Stacy to bring that tidbit to the forefront. Kathy Baker and Scott Cohen both did a fantastic job in the interrogation scenes.

All in all, an excellent episode, probably the best I have seen from this show in a long time. I think the new writers are doing a great job at getting back to the basics with this show, and I am looking forward more than ever to see how the rest of the season plays out.


Here is the recap:
The episode opens outside the Courthouse on 60 Centre Street, with Councilman Neil Hayes-Fitzgerald (Scott Cohen) and his mother Camille (Kathy Baker), standing by a plaque of a former NYC mayor and talking about the councilman having his own plaque someday. Councilman Hayes-Fitzgerald says he has to get over his current bump in the road, and he reminds his mother that she always said that today’s headlines wrap tomorrow’s fish. As reporters begin to gather around, Camille sees Chris Palerno (Stephen Gevedon) arrive, and she wonders aloud who invited him. Neil says he did, they have nothing to hide. Camille reminds him that she is his campaign manager and he should have told him. As the councilman hands off his umbrella to someone else to hold over his mother, he moves over to greet Palerno, who has his arms open wide in welcome. Reporters ask if Palerno remodeled the councilman’s house in exchange for city projects, and another asks if it was a bribe. The councilman says no on is hiding from a full explanation as to why a tabloid made headlines of some accounting errors.

Meanwhile, watching all this on television is Councilman Neil Hayes-Fitzgerald’s daughter Stacy (Betty Gilpin) who is in her apartment, lighting up a crack pipe. Her boyfriend Rick Siebert is on the phone, telling someone that the bribery scandal is just the sizzle, next comes the steak unless he is made happy. He demands 50 G’s by tomorrow, and there is no way he lies his way out of the next headline. He throws down the tabloid, which has the headline “The Councilman and the Contractor.” He tells the caller he wants his money now. Stacy says she thought they said no more, and he says they gotta bluff him. They hear knocking at the door, with someone yelling for them in Spanish to open the door.

Back in the councilman’s office, Palerno is also there, telling Neil he turned the heat down with one press conference, and a couple more and it’s gone. Palerno point back at him, saying he still gets his big meaty projects, but he adds that whoever hacked into his emails is stealing money out of his pocket and he doesn’t like it. Both Neil and Camille reassure him there will be other things in the private sector, and remind him to do nothing rash.

Back at the home of Councilman Hayes- Fitzgerald, his wife Josie is getting ready for a night out, the babysitter also there. Josie worries that he daughter hasn’t called in days. Stacy is at her apartment, and she says she can’t believe that they are going to get the cash. They are removing their clothes, and she says she is so glad they didn’t have to do the “other thing.” There is a knock at the door, and when Rick opens it, a masked person with a gun pushed the door open, knocking Rick down. Both Rick and Stacy move to run, but the intruder shoots Rick, and the bullet passes through him and also hits Rick. They both go down, and it appears both are dead.

It seems many hours have passed, and Josie arrives at Stacy’s apartment, and when she finds the door open, enters and is shocked to see her daughter on the floor, with her boyfriend lying on top of her, both appearing dead. But as Josie approaches, she sees he daughter move her head and open her eyes – she is alive.

Later, a detective on the scene is telling Detectives Goren (Vincent D’Onofrio) and Eames (Kathryn Erbe) that she called Major Case when she realized the injured girl was the councilman’s stepdaughter. The boyfriend was Richard Siebert, 25 and unemployed. The apartment belongs to Stacy and her parents pay the rent. Eames notices the crack pipe, and Goren tells them to take the computer they find in to be downloaded. Eames asks if Stacy talked to anyone before being taken to Bellevue, and the detective said Stacy was already in the ambulance. Goren also finds newspaper clippings about the councilman and comments that it looks like they were interested in her stepfather’s problems. One article had a note written in the margin that says “screw the bastard!” and Goren thinks it looks like they enjoyed them. ME Rodgers (Leslie Hendrix) is on the scene, and tells them that she spoke with the ER and as the bullet passed through Rick first and then to Stacy, it was deformed. Goren notices the deadbolt is not broken but the jamb is splintered, so Goren walks through what he thinks happened – that the door was kicked open and Rick may have moved to protected her and they both got shot. They are also told that Rick’s body had been moved because Stacy was pinned underneath him, possibly for three to four hours. Rodgers speculates she may have saved herself by playing dead – but Goren wonders if maybe the killer only wanted Rick. Goren says they will do a vehicle canvas of the area.

At the hospital, Stacy is upset because they will not give her any painkillers, and her mother Josie said they were told no more pain medication. Goren tells her she is experiencing withdrawal, and they need her to remember what happened while it is fresh in her mind. She says she doesn’t remember anything. But when Eames continues to press, Stacy adds that after she was shot she still heard the intruder in the room so she “went away”, like she was watching it but she wasn’t. She insists she is in real pain now.

Back at the Major Case squad, Goren and Eames tells Captain Ross (Eric Bogosian) what they have found. Ross hopes for quick resolution that doesn’t antagonize a powerful politician over an errant family member. He also tells them the Chief of Ds is coming. Eames said it could be a drug deal gone bad, they were packed for a flight to Aruba with new clothes and new luggage, maybe they stiffed the wrong dealer.

At a diner, Goren and Eames are talking to the man who we earlier saw banging on Stacy’s door. They tell him the landlord said that he was seen banging on Rick Siebert’s door, screaming threats. Eames asks if that was for drugs, money, or both. He says he’s got nothing to say, but Goren asks if he’s not worried about threatening a murder victim, he whispers, “Guys, I’m on the job.” He tells them to check with OCCD, his name is Ruiz (Otto Sanchez ). Goren thinks about it, and then tells Ruiz to give him a shove. Ruiz pushes him, saying that he’s out of here, but Goren forces him to sit down, and says he wants to talk about Rick Siebert? Ruiz says he bought Siebert’s debt, and they put him into play in this neighborhood. But Eames counters that he wouldn’t buy a debt knowing it was bad, that would make him look stupid. Ruiz says he’s a dumb kid from Jersey hooked on drugs, always skimming but they fronted him because he said family money was coming. But Eames comments this was from her family, and Ruiz says everyone knew who she was and the Seibert side of the family owed them - whatever that means. Eames looks questioningly at Gore.

Back at Major Case, Eames has been looking over the computers, and found that Rick had Hayes-Fitzgerald’s personal emails on them. Rick had hacked in and got emails between the councilman and his contractor Palerno, the story that fed the tabloids. Was the killing revenge, or did Rick threaten something bigger?

At the office of Councilman Neil Hayes-Fitzgerald, Neil tells Goren and Eames that Rick Siebert wasn’t welcome in his home, unfortunately, and that meant they didn’t see much of Stacy. Eames noted that he paid her rent. He responds that they knew he was going to sponge off of her, but it kept her from sleeping in the streets. Goren comments that even with Siebert’s failings, he was a computer whiz, and hacked into his emails. Neil seems surprised, and questions that Siebert sold that stuff to the tabloids? Eames asks if Siebert ever made demands on him – for a bigger payday than what he got at The Ledger? Neil says these stories were fabricated from accounting errors and he would have never given them anything anyway. Goren states that Rick told people he had more money coming, maybe from material of an even greater value. Neil says he’s a delusional cracked, why would they listen to him? Goren asks “And Stacy? “ Neil says to leave Stacy out of it, he doesn’t think she had anything to do with it. Goren challenges, “And you honestly believe that?” Neil asks if Goren can prove otherwise, and is met with silence from Goren and Eames. He comments, “I didn’t think so” and gets up to leave, saying he has a meeting.

As Goren and Eames leave, Eames comments that Neil is very forgiving to a stepdaughter who nearly got him knocked out of a mayoral race. Goren adds they should talk to the contractor who stood to lose millions from the city project.

They question Chris Palerno, and he says he has an alibi, and he would have no reason to kill Rick, saying the stories were “sticks and stones.”. Eames reminds him that he told the reporters that he would find who did this and deal with him, but Palerno he said he was mad, maybe he meant it a few days ago but providence stepped in. Eames suggested that providence was the man he hired to kill Siebert, but Palerno still denies it all. Why would he compound his problem by ordering a hit?

Back at the hospital, Stacy is getting ready to leave the hospital and her mother tells her she is coming to stay with them, and not go back to her apartment. Stacy says she can do what she pleases, but Neil’s mother Camille steps in, and continues to pressure him to come home, telling her that Sophie is doing a hunger strike, and her mother says she misses her, both kids want her home. Camille says there could be drug charges, and she will need them, just like before. She nods her head in agreement.

Neil is being questioned again by reporters, as Ross, Goren, and Eames watch on TV. Eames says he is slick, the way he tap danced to the tune of Siebert’s death. Goren tells him he’s like his great grandfather, and Tammany Ward Healer, who was made building commissioner when his predecessor was found floating under the 59th Street Bridge. When Eames asks about Neil’s “fancy hyphenate”, Goren tells her that the name Hayes comes from his mother’s side of the family, and they have run city hall on three occasions. Eames looks at the files that Siebert hacked into, they were the councilman’s emails on a chat room for rare wines. Eames doesn’t think oenophiles would be of any use to the Ledger, but Goren thinks they way Rick put his files together, that he had something of real value.

Goren and Eames go to the councilman’s home to speak with Stacy, with Camille present. Goren questions her about the articles and the note in the margin on one of them saying to “screw the bastard.” She says she is home now and won’t talk about that, and Camille supports her. Camille says Stacy went through a rebellious phase but they are all back together now. Goren asks about information on the shooter, and she says he had on a hat but his sleeves were pulled up and he had tattoos – snakes or barbed wire. She says he just shot, looked them over, and left.

Later, Goren and Eames think this is not about a drug debt, as they would have both been killed, and the place would have been torn apart looking for drugs or money. Goren speculates that the wine chat sounds like old mob code, so Eames said they will check on the councilman’s “true passion for the grape.”

At a wine shop, they talk with the snooty proprietor, who tells them that the councilman leaves the wine selection to him. Goren tells him about a wine that the councilman keeps going on about, but the wine dealer says the councilman wouldn’t order that wine now. When Eames asks why, Goren tells her that the wine is best enjoyed in its youth. Goren says they would like to look at the councilman’s purchases for the last 6 months, and when the man balks, saying it is confidential, Eames threatens shutting him down for a forensic audit. Goren says in a fake French accent, and smirking, “A printout would do, ah?”

Back at Major Case, they look over the wine records, and find many of the wines mentioned were never purchased. Goren says it is a code. Eames gets a message saying the vehicle canvas paid off, and they found a black van that was ticketed for blocking a driveway in the area of the shooting that also later made an illegal port entry nearby, probably to dump the gun in the river. They decide to send out a search team for the gun. The van is registered to a Toscano Trucking.

Goren and Eames head to Toscano Trucking, and find it on the third floor of a building, which is empty except for a porta-potty, a desk and a man – Mr. Duraga (Brian Tarantina) sitting at it. They bring him in for questioning. In interrogation with his attorney, they question him about a boat he bought, and where he got the cash for it. He says it was a token of appreciation. Goren brings in a evidence box with a gun in it and asks to see Duraga’s hand. He sees a cut on one of his fingers, and comments that it was likely made by loading the clip in gun they recovered from the river, nearby his van where he made an illegal entry. The attorney ends the interrogation, but Eames asks for him to pull up he sleeves. He shows his arms – no tattoos. After he leaves, they speculate the tattoos were temporaries, used to distract the victims from the shooter’s face.
Back at Neil’s residence, Neil and his mother talk about Stacy. Camille says Stacy needs and anchor and there is only one person who can do that. Josie enters and She asks if he is coming up, and he asks her if she has taken her pill, and she says yes. He says he will be up in a minute. When Josie leaves, Camille asks why Neil picked her and not the girl from the upstate family. He says Josie has been very accepting. Camille laughs and they smile at each other.

Later, we see Neil enter the bathroom where Stacy is bathing. He says she should not be there alone, she is on medication. She says she will get out, but he makes no move to leave. She says she needs a towel, but instead he approaches her and grabs a sponge, and reaching deep into the water, he gets it wet and squeezes the water onto her back. He asks if she remembers when she liked that, and she says, “Please don’t.” He touches her hair and moves closer, whispering, ‘You will always be my girl.” He continues to whisper if and moves in closer. Later, we see Stacy wiping the steam off the mirror, and, opening a drawer, finds scissors and cuts her wrists, blood dripping to the floor. The next we see of Stacy, she is being rushed to the hospital, with Josie, and Neil and his mother, close behind.

Later, as a nurse tells Stacy she is on suicide watch, Goren enters to question her. He thanks her for the information about Rick, saying it was helpful. He asks her to look over some photos. As Goren lays out the photos, Neil moves into the room, Stacy’s monitor indicating her pulse is racing. Goren notices that this coincides with Neil’s entry, and he asks Neil to go back over to the waiting area. As he leaves, her pulse drops back down, and she tells Goren she is not ready to do this. He sits down, saying that it must be tough to be in that situation at home. She says he doesn’t know anything about that, but he says that is not true, he came from a bad home. He reminds he she say when bad things are happening, she needs to “take yourself away to another place”: and that is what he used to do, so he can see things from somewhere else. She says maybe it was just the crack, but he says they both know that is not true. She says she knows what he is thinking, and he’s wrong. He nods his head, but looks out to Neil in the waiting area.

In the waiting area, Josie talks about her life being about saving Stacy from herself. She home schooled her in the ninth grade, and Neil said they were all in Europe that year. Josie takes Sofie away from Neil, and Neil’s mother comments that they can’t hold Stacy to anything she’s said after what she has been through, and she will be home soon and part of the family again, like their time in Sienna – that was real happiness. But Josie looks far from happy.

Back at the Major Case squad, Ross says that the move to Europe was an odd choice for a politician with a hot career. Goren informs him the subpoenaed her records from the high school, and she had been acting out, they recommended therapy put her parents pulled her out for home schooling. Goren thinks there is a bigger reason- sexual abuse by her stepfather. Ross comments that would be a headline to die for of Siebert knew about it. Goren says they don’t have direct evidence but they think Rick was on to it. Josie may be covering. They also have Camille’s laptop, and there are cryptic messages about a volatile situation, and Ross tells them to use it, and find the raw nerve that breaks through the family wall.

Back at the councilman’s home, they speak with Camille about her laptop. And they tell her about the volatile situation, and she says they are a daily thing in politics. Eames tells her they found that she raised money for the Hayes-Fitzgerald Library, the beautification of Van Cortland Park, and St. Leoba’s – a shelter for runaway teens, the shelter getting three times what the others got. Camille wonders why this should be of interest, and when they tell her that her giving to St. Leoba’s occurred after Stacy left high school, Camille ends the questioning, acting insulted, and saying she is calling the commissioner. As Eames and Goren moved to leave, Goren turns back and smiles at her, commenting “It’s a…raw nerve.”

Later, Camille is telling Neil that they have nothing but they are fishing. Neil seems to think if he took a job in the private sector he would be immune to their grief, but she says that is not who he is, or who they are. She thinks he is in a position to grab real power.

Back at the hospital, Neil tells everyone that Stacy is coming home. Neil tells Sofie to tell her how she feels, and Stacy tells Sofie she loves her. Goren and Eames enter, and Neil complains that this is becoming harassment. Goren says they are looking for the man who shot Stacy, why would that be a problem? Neil picks up Sofie and tells Stacy they will be in the hall, and as he touches Stacy, she recoils. Goren moves in to question her. She said she saw Neil touch her and her response, she doesn’t wan him touching her? He begins to talk about Rick being on to what happened with her and Neil, and she admits it. She says he didn’t know at first, but he asked her a lot of stuff, like why she ran away and what the shelter was like. Goren states that Rick may have threatened blackmail far beyond any political scandal, which could have meant jail time for her stepfather, Eames says that is why Rick was killed.

Back at Neil’s home, he brings the babysitter, Jessica into his wine cellar. She seems amazed by it, like it is his own private club. When she appears cold, Neil strokes her shoulder and apologizes, saying he keeps it that way for the wine. He asks to “do her up” and moves to button her sweater. Later, as Stacy comes down the stairs, she hears Jessica thanking Neil for the tour. He says he will talk to someone at City Hall about a summer internship. Stacy looks on as Sofie runs to Neil, and he asks “Who is my girl?” When Sofie replies “me,” he adds, “My girl and no one else’s!” Stacy sits down on the steps with a mixture of concern and horror.

Later, Neil is telling Camille that Stacy has taken off. Camille is worried about what Stacy will say to the police. She says he went to far, always been lead around by your…. (not finishing the sentence). Neil says why assumes that he…and she cuts him off, saying “because I know you.”

Back at the Hayes- Fitzgerald residence, Goren and Eames talk with Josie. They continue to pressure her about Stacy and bring up Neil, and Josie indicates Stacy makes things up. But Eames says, “At what point do you stop lying?” They keep the heat on Josie, and she breaks down and seems to admit to knowing what was going on. She says it just happened, and when Josie says Neil loved her, Eames said she paid for that with access to her daughter. Josie says it is not just her, Stacy is unstable and Rick was her hero. Josie breaks down, and says it is true, she was afraid of losing everything. When Eames asks her when she ran away before, where did she go. Josie says to Rick, always to Rick.

Goren finds Stacy at Rick’s grave. They talk about Rick, and Stacy tells him she had to get away. Goren reminds her about Sofie, and she said Neil wouldn’t/ Goren says people with his sickness, they have patterns and they don’t change and he will molest other girls and he will hurt her. She says Sofie is his blood, but Goren asks if she wants to take that chance, and abandon Sofie like her mother abandoned her? She asks Goren, “You know?” and he nods his head.

Back at Major Case in interrogation, Camille is brought into the room, Neil is already there. They seem shocked to see each other. Camille seems unphased. Goren tells Neil about Rick being interested in Neil’s conversations with his wine pals, and they bring out the whole story of the wine talk being code for young girls. He mentions one of the codes is the birth year for his babysitter, Jessica, and that he brags to his buddies that he would have sex with her. Neil says Stacy’s brain is damaged by drugs and they couldn’t make a case with her testimony. Goren opens the door, and Stacy enters. Neil seems incensed, saying she lied to them. Stacy tells them she told them what he did to her in the wine seller, and Camille says they took her from nothing, fatherless and said she would turn on them with these disgusting fantasies. Eames states that the teen shelter didn’t think they were fantasies, especially when they found out she was pregnant. Goren says this is why they took her to Europe. Stacy drops the bomb that Sofie is her proof, she is her daughter…her sister and her daughter. Neil stands up and makes a move to her, Goren stopping her. He blames Stacy, saying she should accept blame for what she did. Stacy leaves the room, saying she can’t, leaving Neil and Camille in there with Eames. Outside the room, Stacy says she can’t do it, but Goren tells her the shame will be Neil’s, and Ross says she can trust them.

When Goren returns and Neil says he guesses the interview is over, Eames says he can go but he will be back, the next time in handcuffs on a perp walk. Goren begins to work on Camille, saying that all this work she put into him has been cursed by this weakness of his. Neil becomes more agitated, and says they are out of this. Goren says “You’re not out of this. All the dreams that your mother had for your future, that’s all gone. You just threw all that away. You're not outta this.” Neil continues to beg to Camille, and Goren taunts him over this. He continues to work on Camille, that her sacrifice has been wasted. When Neil reaches for her arm and asks what sacrifice, she recoils and stands up. Goren tells her that her phone records show calls back and forth to Rick Siebert on his disposable cell phone, she did all she could to meet his demands. She said she only made calls to determine Stacy’s well being, but Eames tells her about her doubling back charity contributions to get the payoff money for Mr. Duraga – that she did for her son. Camille says, “You’re better than I thought.” Neil shouts, “Better at what? Meaningless allegations? Mom?” He says he will go to the right people and get this turned around, he’s always been able to do that. But she counters that he didn’t deal with Rick Siebert. When he seems confused, Goren tells him that Camille hired Durago to kill Siebert, and when he still doesn’t believe it, Camille says he thinks he got lucky and that one more time, everything just worked out for him. As Neil continues to deny any involvement, but Camille comments how quickly he scrambles to distance himself. She says his life is blessed because of him, she dared to hope and dream he’d have the stones to go the distance but she was wrong. AS Neil wails out at his mother, he begs her not to say these things in front of them. He sobs as she reminds him she had to repeatedly cover for him and there is nothing more she can do for him. As he continues to sob, she screams at him to stop crying, but she strokes his hair, and says she still loves him. Goren looks to the reflective glass window with Stacy on the other side, with a relieved look on her face, as we fade to black.

Clip from “Playing Dead”






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Sunday, April 19, 2009

NY Times On Jeff Goldblum: “The Case Of The Quirky Detective”

The New York Times has a very interesting article about Jeff Goldblum and his upcoming new role on Law & Order Criminal Intent (USA). The full article about Jeff titled “The Case of the Quirky New Detective can be found here. But, in case you can’t access the article for some reason, here are a few interesting tidbits:


AMONG the things you expect to see on the set of “Law & Order: Criminal Intent”: interrogation rooms, firearms, shifty-eyed suspects. Among the things you probably don’t expect to see: a baby grand piano. Among the things you definitely don’t expect to see: Jeff Goldblum improvising a jazz tune on that baby grand piano.

Yet there he was on a recent Friday afternoon at the Chelsea Piers studios, where “Criminal Intent” is produced, his sinewy, 6-foot-4 frame parked behind the keyboard of a Steinway as he tickled his way through a Gershwinesque composition. The scene that Mr. Goldblum was filming called for his character, an unconventional New York police detective recently returned to the force, to lull a witness into revealing details crucial to a murder investigation.

That his musical skills could actually have this effect on people, Mr. Goldblum later admitted, was “a little bit of poetic license, a leap and a conceit.” But, he added, “I’m supposed to be brilliant, so it’s O.K....”


As Mr. Goldblum sees it, a detective, like an actor, must be perpetually inquisitive and a constant conduit of information. “You need to know,” he said methodically, “or be interested in as you watch him: What’s. He. Thinking?”

Audiences have probably asked themselves that same question about Mr. Goldblum, whose best-known film performances — a coterie of cracked geniuses in “The Fly,” “Jurassic Park” and “Independence Day” — can make one wonder how much of those characters’ twitchy, cerebral detachment he truly possesses. (The answer: a lot.)

It was this essential quality that Dick Wolf, the creator and executive producer of the “Law & Order” franchise, wanted from the actor when he cast him to replace Chris Noth, the “Law & Order” veteran who left the series last year.

As Mr. Wolf recalled in a telephone interview, when he met with Mr. Goldblum to offer him the part, he said, “I’m hiring you to be you, because it has to be like the oldest, most comfortable leather jacket in your closet. If you walk onto a set and think, ‘What would my character do?,’ we’re not writing the right character.”...


The rigors of a weekly television series would seem to frustrate this philosophy. But Mr. Goldblum said he was enjoying “Law & Order” (“it’s a ducky job, just awfully peachy”) because it was forcing him to make quick decisions — quicker than he is used to — while teaching him that he can learn to live with the consequences.

“My state-of-the-art thinking about it,” he said, “is to just do as much as I can without becoming hysterical in a way that’s going to undermine the whole thing.”


Jeff will make his first appearance on Law & Order Criminal Intent (USA) on Sunday, April 26, 2009.




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Thursday, April 16, 2009

Vincent D’Onofrio and Kathryn Erbe Conference Call Transcript

You asked for it – so here it is: the complete, “ unabridged” transcript from Tuesday’s conference call with the stars of Law & Order Criminal Intent, Vincent D’Onofrio and Kathryn Erbe. (By the way, I didn’t prepare this so please don’t get too crazy with me if you see any spelling errors or words that don’t seem quite right. I spotted one or two that I think may have been mis-heard, but I am not going to lose any sleep over it and neither should you.)

By the way, there may be another call with Jeff Goldblum coming up soon, so if you have any questions you'd like to suggest, please email me or put it in the comments of this post.

Enjoy!

Don’t forget, the season premiere ”Playing Dead” airs this Sunday at 9:00 PM on USA.


Moderator Thank you. We have a question from Jamie Steinberg with Starry Constellation Magazine. Please go ahead.

J. Steinberg Hello, Vincent and Kathryn, it’s a pleasure to speak with you both.

K. Erbe Hello, thanks.

J. Steinberg I was wondering, Kathryn, what about your role continues to challenge you?

K. Erbe Finding ways to – let’s see. That’s a very good question. I don’t know, every day we have new challenges, just in dealing with the new actors that we get to work with. We have new writers on the show, new producers and I feel like it’s a challenge just staying involved with the work that we’re doing and staying actively involved in finding ways for Eames to stay important to the stories and to bring a positive – just have a positive effect on what we’re doing.

J. Steinberg And Vincent, after so many seasons, how do you all continue to maintain chemistry between each other?

V. D'Onofrio I think it’s been eight years now, so I think that anything the audience sees is just whatever has happened naturally in the eight years. I think that both of us kind of just rely on that – the history of the show and the history of the characters – to just somehow translate to the audience in some way.

Moderator We have a question from Troy Rogers with thedeadbolt.com. Please go ahead.

T. Rogers Hello, Vincent and Kathryn. Actually, this is for either one of you: How much more in-depth is the Goren-Wallace frame-up story going to go into during season seven? Or is that just completely done?

K. Erbe Oh, she’s dead. Right?

V. D'Onofrio Yes, that’s over.

K. Erbe Yes. Unfortunately, sadly, they killed her.

T. Rogers There’s no way it’s going to come back to haunt you guys later on?

V. D'Onofrio I don’t think so, no. That was a certain set of writers that were doing that, and we were enjoying that with them. And then we’ve had another set of writers since then, so – that’s not going to happen again, I don’t think.

K. Erbe Yes. It’s sad.

Moderator Our next question will come from Jamie Ruby with Media Boulevard. Please go ahead.

J. Ruby This first question is for Vincent. You’ve played quite a variety of topics. What kind of role do you enjoy the most, or does like playing maybe evil have a different set of challenges than what you’re doing now?

V. D'Onofrio Is the question which I prefer?

J. Ruby Yes, what kind of role; because you play good and evil, so –

V. D'Onofrio I don’t know, I think I’m – it’s the same as most actors. Anything that’s interesting, you know. Like whatever comes my way, like the most interesting parts of those are the ones that I would do. I don’t really have like a dream role or anything like that. I just go script by script and see what’s interesting, and if not, then I don’t do it. You know, it’s like that.

Moderator Our next question will come from Zach Oat with televisionwithoutpity.com. Please go ahead.

Z. Oat Yes, Television Without Pity. Vincent, I wanted to ask, with the events of last season’s finale, what is your character’s mental state at the beginning of the season? Is he resolved about – resigned himself to all of the loose ends being tied up or is he at all – has he broken down at all in the face of everything that’s happened to him and his nephew being missing?

V. D'Onofrio We never really tie anything up when it comes to Kate and my characters, because it’s – they always want to leave it open. You know, we tie up criminals, but – we’ll end those stories, but not – they’ll never really shut any kind of storyline down completely, so it’s kind of open as to what’s going to happen with my character, I don’t know. I think that this eighth season, I just – you know, I just played it differently than last season, but last season was very, very extreme. So this season, it’s like he’s just trying to be a cop, trying to do the best you can kind of a thing.

Moderator We have a question from Ashley Aikens; please go ahead.

A. Aikens My question here is for Vincent and I’d like to know, what is it like to be developing a character over several TV seasons as opposed to having to develop a character in a two-hour film?

V. D'Onofrio Yes, it’s completely different. When I first started the TV show, I kind of thought it’s ostensibly about the character, and did a lot of planning and stuff. Most of the planning went out the window, and then I just kind of tried my best after that. With a film, it’s much more – it’s really planned out scene by scene and there’s a real solid arc hopefully most of the time. The structure of the film is in three acts, you know it’s going to end – it’s easier to plan out a role like that. It’s just as interesting but it’s a completely different thing.

With the show, it’s just wide open. We just keep doing it, and there’s different crimes, different little stories to tell. So it’s two different things. I think I just always will prefer films. I just think that’s my favorite thing to do. But Goren’s a great character, so it’s good to do.

Moderator We have a question from Kristyn Clarke with popculturemadness.com. Please go ahead.

K. Clarke What do you feel it is about a show like Law & Order that resonates well with viewers?

V. D'Onofrio I think in our show I think it’s the characters, and I think we investigate weird crimes and I think it’s a popular thing on TV, these kind of crime shows and – just like people were not – and still are – into like crime novels and short stories. That’s what we’re doing, but we’re doing like a TV version of that, so – you know, it takes off and people like it.

K. Clarke Do you have a favorite type of case to tackle on the show?

V. D'Onofrio Yes, I like simpler stories. Like we just finished one like a spree killer type story about one guy doing bad things, and Kate and I had to like, you know, catch him. It was more direct, not complicated, and it had heart, and I like that kind of thing.

Moderator We have a question from Jay Jacobs with popentertainment.com Please go ahead.

J. Jacobs I just was wondering, I know that Jeff Goldblum is new to the show and I know you guys aren’t working directly with him, but have you seen any of his work and how is he fitting in with the show?

V. D'Onofrio To me it looks like he’s psyched. Kate, do you want to – go ahead.

K. Erbe That’s okay. We only really got to see him in the beginning when he was waiting for his scripts to be ready. He came and hung out with us extensively and learned all the names of everybody on the crew and just asked us a lot of questions. It seems like the crew is really happy with him and the producers and like he’s having a good time.

V. D'Onofrio Yes. He seems really enthusiastic. And I haven’t seen any of his episodes, so I can’t comment on that.

K. Erbe Yes.

J. Jacobs Okay. Have you worked with any particularly interesting guest stars or bad guys for the new season?

K. Erbe We have a lot. We have Lynn Redgrave, we have Scott Cohen and Kathy Baker are in the episode Sunday night. We had a great time with them. Who else, Vince?

V. D'Onofrio We’ve also worked with some really good unknown actors, like young people that were really good. We’re very lucky in that way, that most times we get really good actors, whether they’re known actors or not.

K. Erbe Yes.

V. D'Onofrio That’s one of the pros of working on this show.

K. Erbe Yes.

Moderator We have a question from Christine Nyholm with examiner.com. Please go ahead.

C. Nyholm I’ve been a longtime fan of the show, I think since it started.

K. Erbe Oh, great.

C. Nyholm Yes, I really enjoy it. My first question is for Vincent: Your character goes into some very dark places, and we’ve seen a lot of changes in him since the beginning in the last season, and I was wondering what kind of toll that takes on you as a person, what effect that has on you, if any, in your real life.

V. D'Onofrio Well, it takes a lot of time. It used to take a lot more time before we started sharing the episodes with another detective. But – you know, it’s – how do I answer this? The first four years, or maybe the first three years of the show, when we were trying to make the show a show, you know, just make it distinct from the other Law & Orders and just a plain old good show that people would watch, that was – that was hard. It was like a 24-hour job and it was with me all the time.

But that’s a long time ago now, and we all know how to do the show, and we know what the show is. And so it’s not that exhausting anymore. The hours are long sometimes, and when we are working we don’t see our families as much as we want. But that’s part of our job, so we have to do it. And as far as Goren, bringing Goren home, that just doesn’t happen anymore. I’ve been playing him too long, and it’s – it’s not something that stays with me.

Moderator You have a question from Ian Dawson with www.stuffwelike.com. Please go ahead.

I. Dawson I wanted to know … all the Law & Orders deal with heavy subject matter and I was wondering what you guys do during downtime on the set.

V. D'Onofrio What do we do?

K. Erbe How do we deal with heavy subject matter and what do we do in our downtime?

I. Dawson Yes. What do you do like on breaks from filming?

K. Erbe Lots of different things. Eat, read, I walk my dog. What do you do, Vin?

V. D'Onofrio We run our families, over the phone. We try to participate in our lives out of our dressing rooms. Mostly that’s what I do.

K. Erbe Yes, exactly.

V. D'Onofrio And then if we can, if we have a moment of relaxation, like Kate said, we read or Kate walks her dog or something like that, exactly.

Moderator We have a question from Troy Rogers with thedeadbolt.com. Please go ahead.

T. Rogers When you guys first took on these roles, did you go into it knowing full well that this might become like a lifelong fulltime job … Law & Order franchise –

V. D'Onofrio Lifelong, huh?

K. Erbe I don’t think either of us thought that we were going to be doing it for eight years.

V. D'Onofrio No way.

K. Erbe No. They never would have gotten you to agree to that.

V. D'Onofrio No way. And the first – what did we do, we did 13 at first, Kate?

K. Erbe Right, yes.

V. D'Onofrio The first 13 was such a blur that I don’t think either of us was even thinking about – I don’t think it was – I don’t know, it wasn’t weighing heavy on me what was going to happen. Was it weighing heavy on you, Kate?

K. Erbe No. We had no idea. It was just getting through each day, really, trying to make it to the end.

V. D'Onofrio The first 13 scripts were really, really good scripts and maybe there was like one clunker out of the 13, but they were really good scripts and very tough to figure out how to pull the show off while we were doing them. The last thing on my mind was like – it was just a blur. I wasn’t thinking about whether the show was going to run, honestly. That’s the honest truth. And I think we knew earlier than most people do with a – when you shoot 3, right? I think we knew pretty early that it was going to go.

K. Erbe Yes.

Moderator We have a question from Amy Steele with Entertainment Realm. Please go ahead.

(Audio quality compromised)

A. Steele Vincent, … one of my favorite films. But I wanted to ask both of you what you like best … character.

K. Erbe I didn’t understand that question, I couldn’t hear it.

V. D'Onofrio What do you like best about your character?

K. Erbe What do I like best about my character? What I like best about my character is she usually has the right thing to say. She knows what to say; she’s fairly straightforward and doesn’t seem to have difficulty making choices. Nothing like myself in real life. I rarely know the right thing to say and she seems to almost have infinite courage and she’s sort of like my fantasy of what it would be like to be like that – strong all the time and know what to do all the time and have a clear idea of what the right thing is to do and that sort of thing. So I like that about her. I like that she’s a strong woman in a tough job and a scary job. I think they’re both courageous. I think most of NYPD is very courageous. So that’s what I like about her.

Moderator We have a question from Christine Zimmer with All Things Law & Order. Please go ahead.

C. Zimmer I have one question for both of you regarding your roles outside of Criminal Intent. Out of all the work that you’ve done in movies, stage or whatever, what roles do you want to be remembered for, and which roles would you like to just kind of forget?

V. D'Onofrio A lot of them I’d like to forget.

K. Erbe The Mighty Ducks 2.

C. Zimmer Vincent, what about you?

V. D'Onofrio Can I just say most of them?

K. Erbe You would not say that, you’re being sarcastic.

V. D'Onofrio Rather than name them? Because I don’t want to like insult the filmmakers.

C. Zimmer No, that’s okay. That’s all right.

K. Erbe Yes, I even feel bad that I even said Mighty Ducks 2, because some people liked that movie.

C. Zimmer That’s okay, I’ll delete it from my memory banks. But Kathryn, I do have one more question for you: Goren is always touted as being this unstable genius and the brains of the partnership, and sometimes you’re there to be like the dry witness conscience. Are you okay with this role, or do you think Eames deserves more respect?

K. Erbe Sometimes I get a lot to do, Eames has a lot to do, and sometimes she doesn’t. I’ve fought for the whole time for her to have more of an impact on the work that they’re doing, and it’s gone up and down. I like being the dry wit. I wish I actually did more of that these days. The humor has kind of gone out of the character and so I would like to find a way to bring that back.

C. Zimmer I think you guys need some more episodes like Vanishing Act.

K. Erbe Yes –

V. D'Onofrio Which one was that?

K. Erbe Was that the magician one?

V. D'Onofrio Oh, okay.

K. Erbe Was that the magician one? I think it was. I can’t Google it because I’m on my phone.

Moderator Our next question will come from Jamie Ruby with Media Boulevard. Please go ahead.

J. Ruby This is for both of you: What got you started in acting in the first place?

V. D'Onofrio I was introduced to it by my dad at a very young age, because he was always involved in community theater and stuff. So I used to run lights and sound and stuff like that for plays and things. But I really didn’t think of acting until I guess I was like 18, and then – I don’t know, it just – I just thought I’d try it out. I don’t really know why. I think it was just in my life, really. I think it’s my dad’s fault. So I just thought I would give acting school in New York, in Manhattan, a try, so I did. And then I guess I just caught the bug and went for it.

Moderator We have a question from Zach Oat with televisionwithoutpity.com. Please go ahead.

Z. Oat I just wanted to follow up on some of the stuff you guys have been saying. Vincent, Kathryn said that if you’d known it was going to be eight seasons, they probably wouldn’t have been able to lock you into the character. Why – I guess I have to ask – how have the managed to keep you two on and interested for so long, especially you, Vincent? You’ve certainly looked for a lot of variety in your film roles. Is it a love of the characters or is it a comfort zone or are they writing you the big checks, or is it a combination of all three?

V. D'Onofrio For me it’s a combination of all three.

K. Erbe Yes, for me too.

V. D'Onofrio I have a lot of freedom because of Law & Order. I have a lot of creative freedom. I have a lot of creative freedom on the show and I have a lot of creative freedom with my own time to do other films and do anything I want, so – it’s a very good situation.

K. Erbe Yes, and it gives us a structure for our lives. I mean, as actors, I never – I was ready to give up acting because I could not handle never knowing when I would have a paycheck or where the job would be, where it would take me; and having a daughter and now my son, I just couldn’t – it was just too hard of a life. And this gives us a – when we have time off, we know that it’s time off; it’s not time out of work, looking for other work.

And it’s really such an amazing experience to work with the same people for this length of time. It’s challenging and it’s so gratifying to know everybody’s families and – it’s just a very different experience from the sort of crash and burn of going from one job to another and really never knowing – this like gypsy lifestyle, never knowing where you’re going to be when. So it’s a very different, much more stable, if it’s even possible to say that – a stable environment.

Moderator We have a question from Jay Jacobs with popentertainment.com. Please go ahead.

J. Jacobs You were just mentioning creative freedom. I was wondering, I know it’s been a couple of years now, but has moving to cable and the USA Network sort of freed the show up to do different things that they couldn’t necessarily do in the – at NBC?

V. D'Onofrio I don’t think so. I think it’s exactly the same, right?

K. Erbe Yes. Because they show them on NBC too, so –

V. D'Onofrio I think the only change that I know, I think there’s like a minute – the episodes are like a minute longer or something like that, something silly like that.

J. Jacobs All right. And we have an older interview with Eric Bogosian. I’m a big fan of his.

V. D'Onofrio Me, too.

J. Jacobs What’s he like to work with and is he going to be doing anything this season?

V. D'Onofrio He’s going to – yes, he’s doing lots.

K. Erbe Yes. We just got him out in the woods last night in the rain.

V. D'Onofrio We located a girl in the woods with the captain last night.

K. Erbe Yes. He comes out a lot more this season than he ever has, I think. He was wondering really why he wanted to do that, when we were standing out in the middle of the woods in the rain.

Moderator We have a question from Christine Nyholm with examiner.com. Please go ahead.

C. Nyholm I have another question for both of you: What kind of advice would you give to new young actors coming up as far as what kind of education they should get and how they should pursue an acting career.

K. Erbe What would you say, Vin?

V. D'Onofrio I think when I was younger I would have said go to like a private acting school or something like that, but I think that these days, the drama departments and the universities are so great that I think that’s the way to go, and unless they want –

K. Erbe Get an education.

V. D'Onofrio Get an education. Go into the drama department, whatever, film department, or just like the arts section of a university and – start there, study there. And then after that, go to the city you want to live in, like L.A. or New York and then try to be – then try to get jobs. Do theater and stuff. But when I was younger I would have said just go straight to the city and take an acting class and try to get jobs. But I think these days – I’ve been checking out universities and stuff and I know some teachers and some teachers that teach writing, film writing, and I know some drama teachers and – they’re all really good teachers, so – I’m swaying towards that now.

Moderator We have a question from Troy Rogers with thedeadbolt.com. Please go ahead.

T. Rogers Your characters have a pretty complex and interesting relationship. After all they’ve been through, what would you like to see happen between them during this season?

K. Erbe I personally am very happy because this season we’re back on the same page. I, for some reason, really like that, when they’re on the same team and they’re just on the path together. Although it makes for probably a more interesting show when we’re at odds or going in different directions, I personally like that; and this season we were working together.

T. Rogers Vincent?

V. D'Onofrio Yes, I agree with Kate, what she said. I think there’s nothing left to argue about, really. I think it depends on what the writers come up with. If they can come up with another good conflict between us, then most likely it will be cool to do. But I agree with what Kate said.

Moderator We have a question from Kristyn Clarke with popculturemadness.com. Please go ahead.

K. Clarke We’re just curious to know if you had a favorite episode or onscreen moment from the coming season so far.

K. Erbe I would have to say that in the episode that is going to be on Sunday night, Kathy Baker and Scott Cohen, their characters, when they were in the interrogation room at the end when she kind of grabbed him and –

V. D'Onofrio Oh, yes.

K. Erbe -- pressed him to her – to her chest and tried to comfort him after screaming at him, they were fantastic. It was very twisted and – I mean, we’ve had a lot, but that one really sticks out in my mind.

V. D'Onofrio Yes. He turned into this big baby right in front of her eyes. It was awesome.

K. Erbe Oh, such a baby. Yes.

V. D'Onofrio It was really good. So I guess it was somebody else’s screen moment that we liked most.

K. Erbe I guess. Can you think of one that was ours?

V. D'Onofrio No, I can’t. I think you’re exactly right, that was very entertaining.

K. Erbe It was very entertaining.

Moderator We have a question from Jamie Ruby with Media Boulevard. Please go ahead.

J. Ruby Would either of you ever be interested in writing or directing for the show?

V. D'Onofrio No.

K. Erbe I don’t think I would, no. Not writing, definitely not writing. And I don’t think I would – being a director, I don’t know whether I have it in me. Maybe for something else.

J. Ruby Do either of you have any new, I guess, acting projects coming up?

K. Erbe You have lots, right, Vin?

V. D'Onofrio Lots?

K. Erbe You did like 17 films on the last hiatus – directed, starred.

V. D'Onofrio That’s good, I’ll talk about that. I directed a film over the summer, a kind of new genre that I invented, slasher musical. I just finished it, and we’re taking it to L.A. in a week to sell to a distributor, so it’ll probably be out sometime, I hope, soon. I have a movie, The Narrows, coming out, and a movie called Staten Island coming out that I acted in – both of those. And that’s all.

K. Erbe And I have a movie with Edie Falco and Elias Koteas called Three Backyards.

Moderator We have a question from Christine Nyholm with examiner.com. Please go ahead.

C. Nyholm Vincent, I have a question about the very end of the last season, after Vincent or Goren realized that his nemesis had been killed and it was for his benefit – do you know what I’m talking about? – and he’s sitting with that professor. And you kind of looked at the end, when he said, “I did it to free you,” basically, and you got that look on your face like, you got it. And I was wondering if we’re going to be seeing now in this season a change in you or a kind of a freeing in your character because of this action.

V. D'Onofrio It’s nice that you saw it that way, because that’s the way I wanted you to see it, so it’s – yes. I wanted it to kind of be a freeing thing so that I could treat the next season fresh, so it could be a guy trying to keep his stuff together, do his job; and so what’s interesting about this kind of storytelling is that we always have that – like, the audiences that watch our show, if they’re fans of the show, then they know that that’s part of the learning. So even if we don’t mention it or I just show this kind of earnest cop trying to do his thing throughout the season, the season previous to that or other things in the previous years, they’re still present, because people are fans of the show and they know that that’s the guy they’re watching that went through all that stuff. So, yes, that’s what I did, and that’s what I’m doing now.

Moderator We have a question from Loring Judge with Reel Blog. Please go ahead.

L. Judge Thank you for sharing your time with us. The question is, how do you feel about the new writing team this season? Are you pleased with your episodes?

V. D'Onofrio It’s tough to – always tough when we switch writers to – it’s all – these last eight years have been just experience after experience, learning experience after learning experience, and it’s quite a business. To be a performer on a television show, you get a lot of curve balls thrown at you and you have to deal with them, and you know that the show has to be shot so you do your best to contribute and make it the best show you can. But you get thrown curve balls, like a new writing crew, and – who have never written for you and they’re trying their hardest to get it right, and they’re in a position where they have to get it right fairly quickly, because there are shows to shoot and to air, and so it’s tough. It takes a while.

But the great thing about is that they’re all talented people and everybody’s scripts are getting better and better, and what we’ve been talking about for the last few minutes is these great things about this season already. So there have been some amazing things already this season. But it’s tough. It’s tough to get new writers. And they’re great people and so we’re – this show is – this last show that we did was great, and it’s a good season so far, so we’re happy.

K. Erbe Yes.

Moderator We have a question from Christine Zimmer with All Things Law & Order. Please go ahead.

C. Zimmer One more quick question. The show seems to have completely dropped the law end of it, is that ever coming back? Or has it just kind of gone by the wayside?

K. Erbe We miss Courtney. But we haven’t been in court at all this year, not once. I didn’t even think about that.

V. D'Onofrio No, it’s been just straight out catch the bad guy, political – we’ve been involved in politics of big corporations and stuff like that. It’s that kind of season. But we haven’t been – no, I think we do less of the law part, I think you’re right. I mean, as you know, it never really focused on that very much anyway, but – one of the cool things about having an ADA in the show is that you have to actually answer to somebody. Because there’s this kind of tension between the captain and the two detectives, but there’s a certain kind of tension between the detectives and the assistant district attorney and that’s fun to play. So we don’t get to do that often anymore.

K. Erbe Yes.

Moderator We have a question from Jamie Ruby with Media Boulevard. Please go ahead.

J. Ruby I just want to ask Vincent, what’s the name of your slasher musical, so we can look out for it?

V. D'Onofrio It’s called Don’t Go in the Woods.

J. Ruby Okay, that sounds interesting.

K. Erbe It is. It’s very good.



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Julianne Nicholson Out of Law & Order Criminal Intent, For Now

This is just in from Entertainment Weekly’s super scooper Michael Ausiello. It seems he learned exclusively that Julianne Nicholson is now out of Law & Order Criminal Intent while she is on maternity leave. He reports that for the final four episodes, Kathryn Erbe will alternate between partners Goren (Vincent D’Onofrio) and Nichols (Goldblum), doing double duty.

Kathryn, you are one lucky woman.


Michael’s exclusive story about Erbe and Nicholson can be found on Entertainment Weekly, here.




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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Vincent D’Onofrio and Kathryn Erbe Live Q&A – An Interesting Experience!

I had the opportunity to participate in a media conference call with the stars of Law & Order Criminal Intent (USA), Vincent D’Onofrio and Kathryn Erbe. The group asked both of them quite a few good questions. Both Vincent and Kathryn were very gracious and very open with their answers, and I believe that everyone was very appreciative of both of them taking the time for the conference call.

(Don’t forget, the season premiere ”Playing Dead” airs this Sunday at 9:00 PM on USA.)

I listed my specific questions first; there were quite a few other people ahead of me that asked some of the same questions I had on my list. I guess Law & Order Criminal Intent fans are all on the same page.

I asked, outside their roles of Law & Order Criminal Intent, in all the work they’ve done, which do they want to be remembered for, and which ones would they rather forget? Vincent said a lot of them, but he didn’t want to name one, he asked if he could just say most of them. He didn't want to insult anyone. Kathryn did name a movie but I promised her I would delete her answer from my “memory banks.” (I bet you can all guess it anyway because it was the first one that came to my mind. )

I also asked Kathryn that since Goren is always portrayed as the unstable genius and the brains of the partnership, and she is there as the dry wit and his conscience, is she OK with this role, and does Eames deserve more respect? Kathryn said that sometimes Eames gets a lot to do and sometimes she doesn’t. She’s fought for her to have more of an impact on the work that they are doing. It’s gone up and down. She likes being the dry wit and she wishes she could do more of that, they humor has gone out of the show. (I told her they needed more episodes like Vanishing Act. )

I also commented that the show seems to have completely dropped the “law” end of the show once Courtney Vance (ADA Carver) left the show, and I asked if that is ever coming back or has that gone by the wayside. Kathryn responded that they miss Courtney - and they haven’t been in court at all this year. Vincent added that it’s been straight out “catch the bad guy” and politics of big corporations and things like that. He said “It never really…as you know it never really focused on that very much anyway, but one of the cool things about having a ADA in the show is that you have to actually answer to somebody. Because there’s this kind of a tension between the captain and the two detectives but there’s a certain kind of tension between the detectives and the assistant district attorney, and that’s fun to play, so we don’t get to do that often any more.”


Here are some of the high points and some interesting tidbits from both Kathryn and Vincent from the entire Q&A session: (By the way, if I am allowed to publish some of the actual call transcript, I will do so when it's completed.)



Nicole Wallace is DEAD. Repeat: DEAD. It’s over. (Kathryn said, “They killed her.”) There seem to be no plans for this story line to continue.

Question: What kind of role does Vincent enjoy the most? He seems to like anything that is interesting – he doesn’t have a dream role, he goes script by script.

With the last season finale, what is Goren’s mental state? Are all his loose ends tied up? Vincent says they never really tie everything up with his and Kathryn’s characters, but they won’t ever shut a story line down completely. Last season was an extreme, this season he’s trying to be a cop, doing the best he can.

It was mentioned that Vincent’s characters goes to some very dark places, and there have been many changes with him since the beginning of the show - what toll does this take on him as a person in his real life? Vincent says it takes a lot of time; it used to take more time before they started sharing episodes with another detective. But Vincent said that the first three years of the show, when they were trying to make the show distinct from the other Law & Orders, that was hard and it was 24-hour job, and it was with him all the time. But they all know how to do it now and it is not as exhausting any more. The hours are long and when they are working they don’t see their families as much as they want, but that’s the job. But he’s been playing Goren too long that it’s not something that stays with him.

What do they do during down time on the set? Kathryn said they eat, read, and she walks her dog. Vincent says they sometimes run their families over the phone, and they try to participate in their lives out of their dressing room.

They have some interesting guest stars this season – Lynn Redgrave, Scott Cohen, Kathy Baker. Vincent says they are very lucky that they get very good actors, whether they are known actors or not. Kathryn added later that they both enjoyed doing a scene in the season premier “Playing Dead” with Scott Cohen and Kathy Baker. It's when when they were in the interrogation room, and Kathy Baker grabbed Scott and pressed him to her chest and tried to comfort him after screaming at him. Kathryn said they were fantastic and it was very twisted. (They both indicated they really enjoyed this scene, so it sounds like we will have an interesting season premiere!)

Vincent said when they started the show, the first 13 scripts were very good, but things were just a blur at that time. He never knew that the show would run this long.

Kathryn was asked what she liked best about her character. She says Eames usually has the right thing to say, she’s straightforward, and doesn’t seem to have difficulty making choices – nothing like herself in real life. She rarely knows the right thing to say. Eames seems to have infinite courage and she’s strong all the item, and knows what to do all the time. Eames is a strong woman in a tough and scary job.

What got them started in acting? Vincent said his dad introduced him to acting at a young age as he belonged to a community theatre and Vincent use to run lights and sound there. He didn’t think of acting until he was about 18, and he just thought he’d try it out. It was just in his life. He’s glad he gave acting school in Manhattan a try and caught the bug.

How did they manage to stay interested and stay on the show so long? Is it the characters, the comfort zone, or the big checks? They both said it’s the combination of all three. Vincent says he has a lot of creative freedom because of Law & Order, on the show and with this own time to do other films and anything he wants. Kathryn says it gives them structure for their lives. Kathryn said she was ready to give up acting because she couldn’t handle never knowing when she would have a paycheck or where the job would take her, and with children it that would be too hard a life. She said it’s an amazing experience to now work with the same people for that length of time, and knowing their families. It’s different than the "crash and burn" going from one job to another and never knowing where you are going to be when. It’s much more stable.

When they were asked about Eric Bogosian this season, they responded that he is doing a lot this season. Kathryn said they just found him in the woods with a girl in the rain last night. (They are talking about a case, of course!) Vincent Kathryn added that he will come out a lot more this season that he has in the past.

What would Vincent and Kathryn like to have happen between their characters this season? Kathryn is happy because this season they are back on the same page and the same team, and she really likes that, although it does make for a more interesting show when they are at odds or going in a different direction. Vincent agreed – and said there really is nothing left to argue about but if the writers can come up with another conflict it would be cool to do.

When asked if either of them would be interested in writing or directing for the show, Vincent quickly answered no, and Kathryn added she doesn’t think she would either - "not writing, definitely not writing.” When asked if they had anything coming up, Kathryn commented that Vincent did “like 17 movies during the hiatus” (directed, starred). Vincent spoke about starting a new genre, a “Slasher Musical” film that he just finished and he’s taking to LA in a week to find a new distributor. This movie is titled “Don’t Go In The Woods.” Vincent also mentioned his recent movies “The Narrows” and “Staten Island” where he acted. Kathryn also has a movie with Edie Falco and Elias Koteas titled “Three Back Yards.”

They were asked about the end of the last season in the scene where Declan Gage said he murdered Nicole to free Goren, and Goren had a look on his face that he got it. Will this really free the character because of his action? Vincent was glad that the person saw it that way, because that’s how he wanted it to be viewed, as a freeing thing to treat this new season as fresh. He said that was what was interesting about this kind of storytelling is the audience and fans of the show will know this and other things that happened to Goren in previous seasons. It is a part of Goren, and even if they don’t mention it going forward, it is still present, and that’s the guy that they are watching that went through all these things.

They were asked about the writing switch. Vincent says it is always tough when they switch writers, it’s a learning experience. They do their best to contribute and make sure it’s the best show they can, but they get thrown curve balls like a new writing crew and the writers have to get it right and get it right fairly quickly. It’s tough and it takes a while, but they are all talented people and everybody’s scripts are getting better and better, and there are great things about this season already and it looks like a good season so far.

Many thanks to Vincent D'Onofrio and Kathryn Erbe for their time and sharing their experiences!


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Tuesday, April 14, 2009

Law & Order Criminal Intent Episode Information


Some episode information – albeit a little sketchy – has been released for the next four episodes of Law & Order Criminal Intent (USA). Don't forget - the big season premiere will be this Sunday, April 19 at 9:00 PM on USA.


Law & Order Criminal Intent “Playing Dead” Air date April 19, 2009 SEASON PREMIERE
In the Season 8 opener, Goren (Vincent D’Onofrio) and Eames (Kathryn Erbe) investigate the shooting of a councilman's stepdaughter and her boyfriend. The drug-addicted pair were involved in blackmail schemes targeting the woman's politically powerful family.

My recap and review of Law & Order Crimina Intent "Playing Dead" can be found here.


Law & Order Criminal Intent “Rock Star” Air date April 26, 2009
Wheeler (Julianne Nicholson) and her partner, Det. Zack Nichols (Jeff Goldblum), investigate the stabbing of an artist, who was found in a neighborhood rife with ethnic tensions.

My recap and review of Law & Order Criminal Intent “Rock Star” can be found here.

Law & Order Criminal Intent “Identity Crisis” May 3, 2009
Goren (Vincent D’Onofrio) and Eames (Kathryn Erbe) track a man who killed his brother while struggling with his traumatic past and the mysterious death of his mother.

My recap and review of Law & Order Criminal Intent “Identity Crisis" can be found here.


Law & Order Criminal Intent “The Glory That Was...” Air date May 10, 2009
Wheeler (Julianne Nicholson) and Nichols (Jeff Goldblum) investigate the Olympic Site Selection Committee.


note: first airing changed to June 14, 2009
My recap and review of Law & Order Criminal Inten "The Glory That Was" can be found here.


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Saturday, April 11, 2009

Law & Order “Exchange”, SVU “Crush” Episode Information

NBC has released the information for upcoming new episodes of Law & Order SVU and Law & Order . The SVU episode is titled “Crush”, which is scheduled to air on May 5, 2009; the Law & Order episode is titled “Exchange” and will air on May 13, 2009.

Here are the details:


Law & Order SVU “Crush” Air Date May 5, 2009
DETECTIVE STABLER’S DAUGHTER, KATHLEEN (GUEST STAR ALLISON SIKO), IS CALLED IN TO HELP WHEN A TEENAGER IS BRUTALLY BEATEN AFTER HER NUDE PHOTOS ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT HER HIGH SCHOOL.


Kim Garnet (Guest Star Carly Schroeder) is found brutally beaten after she sends out nude photos of herself via text message. Detectives Olivia Benson (Mariska Hargitay) and Elliot Stabler (Christopher Meloni) pay a visit to Kim's boyfriend, Steve Walker (Guest Star Alexander Nifong), but eventually learn that he is not the only recipient of the nude photos. Kathleen Stabler (Guest Star Allison Siko) steps in to give Kim advice, as she tries to track down the culprit who distributed the photos. But after Counselor Samantha Copeland (Guest Star Melinda McGraw) demands that Benson arrest Kim for producing and distributing child pornography, Kim must face the possibility of life-long consequences when Judge Hilda Marsden (Guest Star Swoosie Kurtz) hands down an unusually harsh sentence.

Also starring: Richard Belzer (Detective John Much), Dann Florek (Captain Donald Cragen), Ice-T (Detective Odafin Tutuola), Michaela McManus (A.D.A Kim Greylek), Stephanie March (ADA Alexandra Cabot), Tamara Tunie (Dr. Melinda Warner), and B.D. Wong (Dr. George Huang).


Law & Order “Exchange” Air Date May 13, 2009
A DOUBLE MURDER LEADS DETECTIVES TO A JEALOUS, MENTALLY DISTURBED WOMAN


Two young engaged scientists die in a fire and a mentally challenged neighbor Charlie Headlind (Guest Star Christian Anderson) is badly burned trying to save the couple. Detectives Cyrus Lupo (Jeremy Sisto) and Kevin Bernard (Anthony Anderson) discover that both of the victims were stabbed before they burned in the fire, leading them to a mentally disturbed woman, Wendy Teal (Guest Star Gretchen Hall), Charlie's former girl. Also stars S. Epatha Merkerson, Sam Waterston, Linus Roache and Alana de la Garza.

My recap and review of Law & Order "Exchange" can be found here.


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Wednesday, April 8, 2009